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Painkiller Resurrection Problems
27. April 2011
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Just finished playing this. Yeah, I know it's been out since 2009, but I just found out it last week. Boy, are there problems with this game. Even after installing the 44 patch to fix a "Fatal Error" when loading quick saved games, there are other problems that should be addressed.

The biggest one is that there are secret areas that once you get into, if you're not careful, there is no way out. I believe two of these are in Haunted City. One is in a red brick building that you have to shoot out the gray board in the window to enter. Once inside there is a wrapped bail you can use to stand on to get out, but if you shoot it to get the gold, you're stuck. I spent over an hour trying to jump back out of that window and finally had exit and start back at a save. The other is at the docks where you jump over a fence at the base of a crane. (Secret 13 of the 14). Yes there is a metal case, standing on end, there to jump on to get on top of the equipment to jump back over the fence. But I had that fall over and there was no way to get out of that area. At least that I could find or figure out.

Okay, let's say those are just my problem of not having enough FPS or skill to make the required jumps needed to accomplish those. There's still the clipping issue. There are many areas that have this problem. In Forbidden Valley, I believe it's near the end, there is a building, (or structure), that has a wall going from it to the side of a hill. If you look at that wall from one side you see it as solid with bricks. If you go around to the other side, it's transparent. In Gloomy Mountains there are several areas that while climbing around on the rocks, if you fall or jump into a place between the rocks, you're stuck. Also, in one of the lakes you can look down and see some shrimp and tentacle creatures, yet you can still walk right over them. There are also a couple of places that you can clip through the rocks and are just in a gray area. This is also present in Haunted City. In the town area, after you come up from the sewer, face left and go past the two piggy banks and health, to the end of the last building on the right. There seems to be a panel missing on the left side of the building. If you happen to get in there, it takes a bit to figure out how to get back out. In High Seas, while coming back from the secret area past the submarine, all of a sudden, I came to a stop and couldn't move. I could turn around in that spot but couldn't jump, move forward or back. After a while I was finally able to move on. Don't know what that was.

Then there's the crashing problem. I don't know how many times this game has locked up during reloading. Most of the time this occurs during loading a quick save. I have to close the game using Task Manager and restart and sometimes it locks my whole system and I have to reboot. Not something you want to do several times during the day of game playing. This is even after installing the 44 patch that was supposed to address these issues.

Other than these technical problems, the game seems to play well. Of course there are still the ridiculous ways of getting to some secret areas, like the top of the crane. Never did get there. But hey, it's Painkiller.

27. April 2011
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Hello! Yes, I (we) know those bugs, better isn't use loading quick saved games. This clipping issue concerns 5 levels. Man, believe me the 44 patch fixes many things, when you aren't using the patch the game isn't playable. I don't know if those problems will be fixed ever. Yeah, it's Painkiller, Painkiller Resurrection ūüėČ

29. April 2011
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Hi themole, how are you? Here is another fix. It doesn't fix everything, but if I remember correctly, it covers a few of these issues that you mentioned.

Here is the link :

/2010/10/mega-fix-mod-2-0/

 

Resurrection was a fan made game / mod / addition (etc) but was not bad, considering this. I believe it was being rushed out the door also, perhaps too rushed. I have made it through the whole game a couple times, as far as the secrets? I haven't been able to get the secrets AND collect the gold, either. So, I used the "no-clip-mode" If you have powermad installed, it would be "pmnoclip" This was, so far, #1 of 2 ways that I was able to do this.

here is link :

/2010/07/powermad-resurrection-0-44-2/

 But, then I found a Painkiller Weapon "Grapple Hook" mod (#2 of 2 ways ), which I now use, lol. It is still a bit of a cheat, but it was THE only way for me. Pus, I realy like the grapple hook, it is a fun mod Cool

Here is the link for the Grapple Hook :

/2010/11/painkiller-grapple-hook/

Anyhow, I hope this info will be of help, or at least if no other solution is given.

Thanks,

† Wore †

3. May 2011
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Hey Woremochine,

Since my post, I've upgraded to a Sapphire HD 6850 video card. What a difference that made. Things move faster and look a lot better. And I can now make jumps that I couldn't before. Even got all 14 secrets in Haunted City.

I also had found that grapple hook mod but I don't like using cheats or mods if at all possible. My thoughts are that the designers should make things obtainable under normal game play.

After I finished game and got the Leach card, I went back and replayed Haunted City and got the card from that level too. However, I still can't complete Hanger in under 5 Minutes. So far my best is 6:05. But I'll keep trying.

As HV said, without the 44 patch the game is about unplayable. But even with it, it's buggier than anything. Yes, I'm aware that this is made by a fan, (or a group of them), but that shouldn't mean that's an excuse for poor quality. Getting outside of the playing world may be interesting but not fun when all you can do is exit the game and then have to restart back at your last save or checkpoint. Does that Mega Fix improve things that much more?

Anyone know how to get to the secret level?

The last few days I've moved on to Redemption. Now that's a real pain. It's like playing Serious Sam in a shoe box. No room to run around in and way too many enemies. Frown. Gets boring after about an hour. But at least it doesn't crash or have the bugs that Resurrection does.

3. May 2011
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I agree with you on the cheats. I wasn't able to complete all things needed, so I only did what I had to. With the grapple, I have always been a big fan of a grapple hook, since the Quake 3 Arena Freeze Tag mod. Unfortunately, not many PK fans share the same opinion as me about Grapple Hook, lol. I think it is just plain fun. I have used it for other things, for example, in the PK Supernatural Mod, in the Feild Ambulance map, you have to climb up a post to get to the Holy Item, which you then enter a portal, which carries you to the other side of the area for the next Secret / Holy Item, ‚Ķ after 45 minutes ¬Ī (no lies) and I STILL could not climb up, the 'No Clip Mode' was tempting, but I refused to use it because it¬†would make it¬†too easy, so I used the Grapple Hook and came in from a different direction, lol.¬†Because the Grapple Hook¬†still takes skill to use,¬†so I didn't feel so bad¬† Embarassed¬†Cool

Also in the Supernatural Mod, there was a serious crash issue when entering some of the checkpoints. In this case, I used the 'No Clip Mod' but only to get past the checkpoint. On my YouTube channel, there is a video on how I did it.

I have a few other troubleshoot issues on my channel,¬†and used videos to show how I did (or didn't, lol) solve the issues, or at least temporary solutions. I also have¬†2¬†in game videos of PK Redemption, with my band's music¬†(Gentlemen Death) throughout. I am now working on the third (C01E03 ‚Äď Refinery), this one is takin me the most time so far for editing, lol.

As far as the Mega Fix Mod goes, it helped me very much. But again, you and I have different PC setups, so realy all I can say is try it. Obviously you would want to back up you PK directory, in case it ends up being more trouble than help for you. If it works for you, then even better Laugh

Anyhow, thanks for replying to me, I like to be helpful  as often as I can. Obviously I wouldn't be of help to everyone, we all have unique issues as often as we do common issues. Good to see things are going better in the game for you, seems to be a nice video card you got there Laugh especially HD, SWEET. I want to get a BlueRay Burner for my comp, but still too expensive at this time, lol.

Thanks,

† Wore †

10. May 2011
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Well since I got a new video card, i decided to try this game again. (I didn't lean my lesson the first time I guess). It still has crashes, even with the 44 patch applied. Eggtooth did a great job with the Mega Fix Mod. However it changes the style of game play from the way the game was originally done. Not that that is a bad thing, and in this case a mass improvement, but I like to play a game through the way the designer(s) made it to see how good or bad a job they did. I'll usually only install mods that fix technical issues and don't affect game play. After I finish the game in it's original state, I'll apply the other mods and play it again.

Still can't make the jump to the secret place in the upside down church. Yell At least that's the only ridiculous jump that I've found in the game other than having to use the hook and PK jump to get on the crane in Haunted City. There's a video that shows going around the side of a building and then going under it and then back up to the roof and jumping across to the hoist, then to the crane, but that's really exploiting the clipping bugs of this game and I'm sure that's not the way the designer(s) planned on getting there. A player shouldn't have to master a skill, like object surfing, to get to a secret place.

How do you get to the secret level, Angels Dust? Do you have to finish the game in Trauma mode? I've seen a video of someone playing the level but haven't found any information as to how to get to it. This thing was next to torture the first time through on Insomnia let alone having to endure it on Trauma. Might need to use cheats to accomplish this one. ConfusedWink

10. May 2011
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themole said:

 A player shouldn't have to master a skill, like object surfing, to get to a secret place.

How do you get to the secret level, Angels Dust? Do you have to finish the game in Trauma mode? I've seen a video of someone playing the level but haven't found any information as to how to get to it. This thing was next to torture the first time through on Insomnia let alone having to endure it on Trauma. Might need to use cheats to accomplish this one. ConfusedWink

LOL !! I know the feeling about mastering skills, I am REALY BAD with jumping Embarassed .

 I am trying to remember about Angels Dust, I guess I will have to dig back into PK Res again, to see what I can remember. You might be right about Trauma, or maybe at least Nightmare, I can't remember. I check into it.

Thanks,

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12. May 2011
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Well I finished this thing on Trauma mode. Pretty much just ran past everything to the end area and killed the two bosses there. Rather hard to avoid all the soldiers, rocket launchers and grenades otherwise. It said I unlocked all the cards, (which I already had), and there was and alternate ending. It asks if you want to watch it, but you have to answer NO to see it. But that's just a different ending to the cut-scene. Whoppy, what a difference. Who didn't see that one coming?

Still didn't go to the secret level, or make mention of it. If I remember right, there was a secret level, Hell, in the original game that became unlocked and showed on the map, after finishing the game in Trauma mode. How come information about this level is so scarce? (That's why it's a secret, right?Confused). Really, other than the one video I've found of someone playing it, I haven't found any information on this level.

Just an observation, I noticed that High Seas is actually level 5 and Hanger is 6. (at least that's the way they're labeled). But they get played in reverse order. Interesting.

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